Just like the Battle of the Coral Sea, which was a tactical win for the Japanese because they inflicted more damage per se, it was a strategic win for the Americans in the long run. Why? Because they checked the Japanese advance in the Pacific AND proved that the Japanese were not invincible. Tonight Biden got far more time than Ryan and at times Biden AND Radditz were ganging up on Ryan, shutting him down before he could make his point. Tactically speaking, Biden pleased his base, who would have said he won even if a cardboard cutout was there instead of the Senile One but Americans saw the real side of Biden, a blithering idiot, Radditz, a partisan whore, and Ryan, who took it all in stride; strategic win Team R&R.
One, Ryan had to show that he had “gravitas” tonight and he did, going one against two, (Biden AND Radditz (who is CLEARLY in Dumbo’s camp)). Ryan showed he was unflappable even when Gaffes Biden came out with the crazy grandpa in the attic routine, shouting and ranting. Biden trotted out the same lies on Libya, which have been disproved, again making him look like the jackass he is. Ryan won on being the only adult in the room.
Two, Ryan made another good case for Team R&R, refuting some of Biden’s economic bullshit with facts (Biden did the Obama laugh which means, “he is ramming it up my ass and I can’t do jack about it.”) and showed good clear logic on foreign policy; which is something this pathetic regime has none of. Team R&R is looking FAR more competent than Dumbo and Company.
Three, Ryan did nothing when Gaffes Biden trotted out the 47% liberal talking point dreck, that has been PROVEN to be factual, i.e., the Obamaphone liberal pig, and by not taking the bait, it looked like Gaffes was invoking the tried and true Democrat tactic of, “let’s double down on the same old tired bullshit and see if it sticks THIS time.”
Finally, Ryan, like the relatively untried US Navy in the Coral Sea, fought his first debate in the big leagues against a known liar and bullshit strawman dispenser who is in his 15th or 20th debate at the very least. Ryan measured up against an experienced foe, looking cool and calm under fire.
Now Team R&R needs to spend the next few days refuting the bullshit Gaffes Biden spewed out of his oral sewer and correct the record.
As for Radditz, that liberal skank whore could not have been more biased if she crawled under Biden’s podium and pulled a Lewinsky.
In closing, after watching this, the Gunny is scared as Hell that Gaffes Biden, an empty-headed triple-vested jackanape, who’s head is so full of shit his eyes should be brown, could be one heartbeat away from the nuclear codes! HURRY January 2013 so we can be shed of these shitheads.
Gunny, and friends,
I’m not sure Radditz was 100% in Biden’s corner. She did call bullshit when Biden claimed they “didn’t know” about the threat level in Benghazi. Of course, my three year old knows that’s just bullshit.
I think she backed off a little after her AND Biden went after Ryan!
The frigging bastard was his smug arrogant nasty fukkin self alright. For one and all to see. Won’t mean a goddamn thing to the moonbats. They thought he was great. He tossed the red meat (except for the goddamn vegans,that is) to the lunatic fringe. Ryan did exactly what he should have: let the fookin progs show just how nasty and stupid they truly are. Sent the R&R team a C note.
I am not sure that Biden won a victory on the tactical level. To me it appeared to be a tactical draw. Biden’s smirking, shouting, ranting, and laughing were not helpful to the Democrat’s cause (even some of the Democrats’ base are saying the same). However for the purposes of this debate, at least Biden didn’t appear to be on valium like Obama did last week. (Of course Biden did appear to be on “speed” with his weird actions.)
The strategical victory is all Ryan’s. He appeared calm, cool, and “collected”, something that a VP should be. He more than held his own against an angry old man on “speed” and a moderator clearly in the Obama camp.
GG,
I called it a tactical for Biden simply because he fed his base all of the hate and venom they were looking for after Romney drubbed the hell out of Dumbo.
Tuned in to debate. After 30 minutes I tuned out. It came across more as a discussion group than a debate to me….
Got tired of waiting for Ryan to tell the “moderator” to moderate or debate but don’t try both at the same time.
I think that R&R played it well because Radditz is a liberal whore and they let her act like it. She and Biden turned off a lot of indies last night!
Biden made an ass of himself period.
My kids used to act the same way with the snickering, face-making, eye-rolling and, constant interruptions during squabbles…but, now they’re 11 and 12 and don’t do that anymore.
Ryan didn’t hand Joe’s ass to him as I suspected he would but, you have to give him credit for NOT saying “shut the fuck up for 5 seconds and let me finish you asshole” on national tv.
THAT had to take some restraint.
Sepp,
Yep, Ryan came off as the only adult in the room.
Gunny, watching and listening to Biden tonight was excruciating and how the debate was set up to put Paul Ryan in a corner, but without a swing and without changing his voice, Ryan won, hands down. Joe Biden looked reptilian and sounded like a chicago thug right out of the obama sh–hole. He was so crude, he made me sick along with millions of others who saw thru his and obama’s contrived effort to bring back the middle class.
Also, Radditz is a perfect example of all the journalists that think they can write and deceive the American people with lies, they need to know that their careers are over and the media corporations, we need to make sure they are put out of business and replaced with real, and honest journalists, who are truthful and courageous for telling the truth like CNN’s Laura Logan. I can’t believe her courage. Thank you Laura, you are an American Hero.
Judy Kay
Judy Kay,
Exactly right. As I said, a short term win for a long term loss.
Biden pissed off a lot of Americans with his rudeness and stupidity.
Ryan did a good job considering he had to debate two assholes as for Biden what the hell was with all that laughing and smirking about . We already know how dam arrogant he and his ilk are but that was down right rude. Every time Ryan was about to make a point he was cut off or when Biden was about to dig himself another hole she changed the subject. I lost track of how many out and out lies Biden tried to pass off as truth. If I can see that I’m sure there are many more out there that see it too.One of the commentators after the debate said they counted 82 times that Biden interrupted Ryan.
Boats,
I agree. Don’t get me wrong here, that tactical victory for Biden means nothing for them in the long run. Biden’s rudeness probably lost them a shitload more votes.
Didn’t Biden take himself to task later in the debate when he admitted that 47% or the population did not pay taxes? Or did I not hear that correctly? Definite possibility at my age.
hbbill
Somewhere behind enemy lines,
Peoples Republik of Kalifornistan
hbbill,
No brother, you heard it. WHat was great was that Ryan let Gaffes dig his own hole on that one and didn’t say anything on it!